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Jim Simons Is Buying Amazon With Both Hands (NASDAQ:AMZN)

Aug 17, 2023Aug 17, 2023

Mykola Sosiukin

This article was published on Dividend Kings on May 3.

You've probably heard of Warren Buffett, Joel Greenblatt, Peter Lynch, Howard Marks, and John Templeton.

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You've probably never heard of Jim Simons, but he's a legend on Wall Street and the "man who solved the market." Jim Simons is a U.S. mathematician who founded Renaissance Technologies in 1982. It became the most successful quant hedge fund in history.

It's also one of the most expensive, but worth every penny.

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What about returns after 2018?

Renaissance's flagship Medallion Fund generated 62% annualized returns (before fees) and 37% annualized returns (net of fees) from 1988-2021...

To put this performance in perspective, $1 invested in the Medallion Fund from 1988-2021 would have grown to almost $42,000 (net of fees) while $1 invested in the S&P 500 would have only grown to $40 over the same time period. Even a $1 investment in Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway would have only grown to $152 during this time. " - Nick Magiulli.

This fund is now closed to everyone except company employees since its strategy only works for $10 billion fund sizes.

The best trading returns in history have made Jim Simons the 51st richest person in the world, worth $26 billion.

The geeks shall inherit the earth, indeed.

Guess what? The greatest trader in history, who delivered 42,000X returns over 33 years, isn't a market timer.

Don't believe me that Simons is the greatest trader of all time? You don't have to take my word for it, or Nick Maggiulli's, or Harvard's.

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Simons can no more call a bear market bottom than you or I. Medallion doesn't time the market in the traditional sense.

Rather, it uses the world's best quantitative algorithms, running on the most advanced supercomputers and using the best data, to make millions of small trades per day.

Why is 52% important? Because it's how often the U.S. stock market has gone up on any given day for the last century.

Basically, what Simons did with Medallion was figure out a way to compress time and hyper-accelerate compounding in hundreds of financial markets.

But Jim Simmons isn't just a quant trader. After all, there's a reason Medallion is capped at $10 billion and closed to all but Renaissance employees.

Its strategy can't scale to $100 billion or $100 trillion. The money-making magic only works on $10 billion.

That's why Simons is also a great long-term investor.

Yes, the greatest trader of all time, who makes millions of small bets per day, is also a great long-term investors.

In fact, take a look at some of Simons' closed trades.

And he still owns 22 stocks that he's up over 1000% in the last few years.

And guess what? The greatest trader in history, and one of the best value investors of all time, recently more than tripled his position in Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN).

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Yes, the "man who solved the market" bought almost $700 million from Amazon in Q4 and now owns almost $1 billion.

Why is Simmons so bullish on Amazon that it's his second-largest position?

Let me show you why the greatest trader in history is backing up the truck on Amazon, and you might want to consider doing the same.

Amazon soared 12% after hours and finished the next day -2%. Why?

We are impressed that Amazon's advertising revenue growth meaningfully outpaced internet advertising giants Meta (META) and Alphabet (GOOG) (GOOGL). AWS was our biggest concern this quarter, as customer optimization efforts led to revenue growth deceleration, a trend that is still ongoing as the offering saw growth of only 11% in the month of April.

On the bright side, Microsoft is seeing the same trend, and both companies expect these efforts to ease beginning around midyear. Management remains rightfully upbeat on AWS and is continuing to invest heavily in the segment." - Morningstar

Wall Street was upset by AWS guidance coming in lighter than expected, but as Morningstar points out, MSFT is also being affected by a growth in cloud spending.

Why? Isn't the cloud supposed to be bullet proof in recessions? No, just recession resistant.

Think of it like this. What's the main selling point of cloud computing? That companies can outsource their data needs cost effectively.

If you're a company that's seeing blockbuster growth you can call Amazon and tell them you need 100% or even 200% more server capacity, and they can do that.

And if business slows or goes negative? Then you can scale down your capacity, and Amazon can do that too.

The new customer pipeline looks strong. The set of ongoing migrations of workloads to AWS is strong. The product innovation and delivery is rapid and compelling. And people sometimes forget that 90-plus percent of global IT spend is still on-premises. If you believe that equation will flip, which we do, it will move to the cloud. And having the cloud infrastructure offering with the broadest functionality by a fair bit, the best securing operational performance, and the largest partner ecosystem bodes well for us moving forward." - AMZN CEO, Q1 conference call

Cloud is one of the greatest secular megatrends in history, a game-changing way businesses boost productivity.

What about AI? The latest obsession on Wall Street? The battleground of such tech titans as Microsoft and Alphabet?

Amazon has been a leader in AI for close to 20 years.

And that's how Amazon uses AI in its own business. This is what it offers to its clients.


We're not close to being done inventing in AWS. Another recent example is our recent announcement on Large Language Models and generative AI and the chips and managed services associated with them. - AMZN CEO, Q1 conference call

On April 13, Amazon introduced Bedrock, a much better-named large language model than ChatGPT or Bard.

Through its Bedrock generative AI service, Amazon Web Services will offer access to its own first-party language models called Titan, as well as language models from startups AI21 and Google-backed Anthropic, and a model for turning text into images from startup Stability AI. One Titan model can generate text for blog posts, emails, or other documents. The other can help with search and personalization." - CNBC

While MSFT is racing to integrate ChatGPT4 into Bing, Amazon, like Apple (AAPL), isn't worried about being first, they want to be best.

Amazon has worked on AI for more than two decades, and AWS has racked up over 100,000 AI customers. He added that Amazon has been using a fine-tuned version of Titan to deliver search results through its homepage." - CNBC

The same goes for Amazon and customer-facing AI.

People using ChatGPT and Microsoft's Bing chatbot based on OpenAI language models have sometimes encountered inaccurate information due to a behavior called hallucination, where the output appears convincing but has nothing to do with the training data. Amazon is "really concerned about" accuracy and ensuring its Titan models produce high-quality responses, Bratin Saha, an AWS vice president, told CNBC in an interview...

"We always actually launch when things are ready, and all these technologies are super early," Sivasubramanian said. He said Amazon wants to ensure Bedrock will be easy to use and cost-effective, thanks to the use of custom AI processors., Pegasystems, Accenture and Deloitte are among the companies looking forward to using Bedrock, he wrote in a blog post." - CNBC

Do you think billion-dollar corporations are interested in inaccurate information?

Imagine a customer service bot running on AI that starts spouting nonsense or even threatening its customers.

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The AI claims that the user has "been wrong, confused, and rude," and they have "not shown me any good intention towards me at any time." The exchange climaxes with the chatbot claiming it has "been a good Bing" and asking for the user to admit they're wrong and apologize, stop arguing, or end the conversation and "start a new one with a better attitude...

These aren't just isolated incidents from Reddit, either. AI researcher Dmitri Brereton showed several examples of the chatbot getting information wrong, sometimes to hilarious effect and other times with potentially dangerous consequences.

The chatbot dreamed up fake financial numbers when asked about GAP's financial performance, created a fictitious 2023 Super Bowl in which the Eagles defeated the Chiefs before the game was even played, and even gave descriptions of deadly mushrooms when asked about what an edible mushroom would look like." - Digital Trends

Making up data, getting into arguments with customers, and giving out potentially life-threatening misinformation.

Do you think this is what Procter & Gamble or Coke are looking for right now?

Do you think Ford dares launch an AI Bing-powered chatbot with its customers?

The liabilities big companies would face if they integrated flashy AI that kills people would be in the billions.


AMZN didn't start the cloud computing revolution. That was Salesforce (CRM) in 1999. But Amazon, like Apple, perfected the cloud by offering the same back-office products and services and data analytics it used for its business to clients. And that's why from 2006 to 2023, AWS grew into an $85 billion per year business.


Amazon's empire is incredible. In fact, its total sales surpass its next 50 competitors combined.

And Amazon's growth prospects remain as bright as ever.


Here are the growth rates for retail e-commerce in the US by year, according to Statista:

From 2022 to 2027, Statista estimates 13% annual sales in e-commerce sales, meaning AMZN benefits from a very strong secular trend.


And the cloud is the heart of Amazon's success.

This industry, growing at 16% per year, is Amazon's profit engine, and allows it to have the most efficient ads. Which drives its 75% operating margin advertising business.

Cloud is what lets Amazon know what shoppers want, what streamers want to watch, and thus how to make Prime as valuable as possible.

The average non-Prime shopper spends $600 per year, and the average Prime member $1,400.

And this flywheel of growth is all made possible by AWS which is run on some of the most effective and productive AI the world has ever seen.

Why am I such a fan of Amazon? Is it because I'm a Prime member and spend around $2,000 to $3,000 per year on it? Sure.

Is it because Amazon was able to cut my dog's expenses by 50%, saving me $750 per year? You bet.

Is it because Amazon is one of the greatest job engines of our age?


Today 1.25% or 1 in 82 American workers work for Amazon.

You bet I'm in favor of more jobs.


Good paying jobs that pay a median of $31.16 per hour.

But as an investor, philanthropist and manager of my family's $2.5 million hedge fund, what I care most about is how much money Amazon can make for shareholders like us.

And this is where the numbers are truly out of this world.

FactSet Research Terminal

How does 27.6% long-term growth potential sound? That's the median estimate from 56 analysts who cover Amazon for a living and collectively know it better than Andy Jassy or Jeff Bezos.

How is that possible? How can a company with over $500 million in sales grow at almost 30% per year?

FactSet Research Terminal

Remember that the key to Amazon's cash flow and earnings growth is the growth of its most profitable businesses, AWS, and advertising.

Through 2028, analysts expect adverting to grow to a $76 billion business.

Through 2028 analysts expect AWS to grow into a $189 billion business.

But thanks to exponentially growing economies of scale, here's the consensus for Amazon's bottom line growth.

(Source: FactSet Research Terminal)

11% sales growth, 13% net profit growth, 19% EBITDA growth, 44% operating profit growth, and 45% free cash flow growth!

Yes, the next Amazon is... Amazon!

By 2028 Amazon is expected to be generating $130 billion per year in free cash flow.

For context, here are the consensus 2028 FCF estimates for the other tech giants.

What's even more amazing is that in 2028, a year when Amazon is going to be a monster of a free cash flow minting machine, its free cash flow is expected to grow 24%.

Most companies would kill to have a 30% growth rate in sales, much less free cash flow margin.

And 45% annualized growth in free cash flow? 24% off a base of $105 billion in 2027? That's truly mind-bending stuff. But Amazon is expected to make it happen.

And guess what? All this incredible growth, an empire of AI-powered retail, streaming, cloud computing, and advertising, can be yours for an absurdly wonderful price.

FAST Graphs, FactSet

FAST Graphs, FactSet

FAST Graphs, FactSet

Why is Amazon worth 24 to 26 times its cash flow? Because over 20 years, billions of investors have bought and sold it at that valuation, outside of bear markets and bubbles.

12-Month Forward Fair Value

Discount To Fair Value

Current Forward Cash-Adjusted PE

Amazon is historically worth about 26X cash flow and today trades at 17.9X and 13.1X cash-adjusted earnings for a company growing 28% long-term and 45% in the medium term.

For anyone comfortable with its risk profile, Amazon is a potentially very strong buy, and here's why.

Amazon 2025 Consensus Total Return Potential

FAST Graphs, FactSet

Amazon 2029 Consensus Total Return Potential

FAST Graphs, FactSet

How many AA-rated companies do you know that could triple in the next three years and almost 7X in the next six?!

This is why I own 1000 shares of Amazon and look forward to buying a lot more in the coming years.

There are no risk-free companies, and no company is right for everyone. You have to be comfortable with the fundamental risk profile.

DK uses S&P Global's global long-term risk-management ratings for our risk rating.

The DK risk rating is based on the global percentile of a company's risk management compared to 8,000 S&P-rated companies covering 90% of the world's market cap.

S&P's risk management scores factor in things like:

AMZN's Long-Term Risk Management Is The 214th Best In The Master List (57 Percentile In The Master List)

Risk-Management Interpretation

Risk-Management Rating

Very Good

Very Low Risk

Good, Bordering On Very Good

Low Risk

(Source: DK Research Terminal)

AMZN's risk-management consensus is in the top 43% of the world's highest quality companies and similar to that of such other blue-chips as

The bottom line is that all companies have risks, and AMZN is above-average at managing theirs, according to S&P.

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" - John Maynard Keynes

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Let me be clear: I'm NOT calling the bottom in AMZN (I'm not a market-timer). And neither is Jim Simons.

Even Ultra SWAN kings can fall hard and fast in a bear market.

Fundamentals are all that determine safety and quality, and my recommendations.

While I can't predict the market in the short term, here's what I can tell you about AMZN. Here are all the reasons Simons backed up the truck on AMZN in Q4 and you should too.

Could Amazon fall a lot from here in a 15% to 30% correction? Sure.

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Is the debt ceiling deadline rapidly approaching and the most likely catalyst for a sharp sell off? Yes.

But unless you think the economy is going to implode forever and a never-ending depression is going to destroy Amazon's growth prospects permanently, I'd recommend at least buying some today if you don't own any.

Because when all the facts, the best trader in history, and one of the greatest value investors of all time says it's time to back up the truck on Amazon, it pays to listen.


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These Are The Greatest Investors In History Name Returns Time Horizon Most Famous For Jim Simons (Co-Founder Renaissance Technologies) 62% CAGR 1988 to 2021 (best investing record ever recorded) Pure Quant-Based Investing 37% annualized returns (net of fees) from 1988-2021... $1 invested would have grown to almost $42,000 (net of fees) 90-plus percent of global IT spend is still on-premises. If you believe that equation will flip, which we do, it will move to the cloud. its own first-party language models called Titan sometimes encountered inaccurate information Amazon is "really concerned about" accuracy and ensuring its Titan models produce high-quality responses "We always actually launch when things are ready, and all these technologies are super early asking for the user to admit they're wrong and apologize, stop arguing, or end the conversation and "start a new one with a better attitude chatbot getting information wrong other times with potentially dangerous consequences. dreamed up fake financial numbers created a fictitious 2023 Super Bowl gave descriptions of deadly mushrooms when asked about what an edible mushroom would look like 2020 (Pandemic): 28% 2021 (Record Stimulus): 23% Year Sales Free Cash Flow EBITDA EBIT (Operating Income) Net Income Annualized Growth 2022-2028 11.28% 45.25% 19.27% 44.16% 13.45% Cumulative 2023-2028 $4,538,432 $442,367 $852,759 $371,906 $225,015 Amazon: $130 billion 7 Tech Giants: $683 billion Year FCF Margin EBITDA Margin EBIT (Operating) Margin Net Margin Annualized Growth 29.95% 7.74% 23.36% 2.18% Metric Historical Fair Value Multiples (14-Years) 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 12-Month Forward Fair Value $149.82 30.16% 43.18% 12-Month Average Fair Value Forward P/OCF Current Forward P/OCF Current Forward Cash-Adjusted PE 25.7 17.9 13.1 Rating Margin Of Safety For Low-Risk 13/13 Ultra SWAN 2023 Fair Value Price 2024 Fair Value Price 12-Month Forward Fair Value Potentially Very Strong Buy 25% $87.06 $151.52 $112.37 30.16% Amazon 2025 Consensus Total Return Potential Amazon 2029 Consensus Total Return Potential 50% of metrics are industry specific this risk rating has been included in every credit rating for decades AMZN's Long-Term Risk Management Is The 214th Best In The Master List (57 Percentile In The Master List) Classification S&P LT Risk-Management Global Percentile Risk-Management Interpretation Risk-Management Rating Ultra SWANs 74 Good Low Risk Amazon 68 Above-Average (Bordering On Good) Low Risk Dividend Aristocrats 67 Above-Average (Bordering On Good) Low Risk Master List average 61 Above-Average Low Risk Dividend Kings 60 Above-Average Low Risk in the long term, fundamentals are 33X as powerful as luck the ultimate hyper-growth Ultra SWAN an industry leader in cloud, advertising, streaming, and online retail 27.6% long-term return potential vs. 10.2% S&P historically 30% undervalued 17.9 vs. 24 to 26X historical 13.1X cash-adjusted earnings = 0.45 PEG 563% consensus return potential over the next six years, 33% annually, 11X more than the S&P 500 400% better risk-adjusted expected returns than the S&P 500 over the next five years Click here for a two-week free trial, Seeking Alpha's Disclosure: